So i think we all should just stop deffrents story and live as we are living just followe the commandment of all mighty God. the Bible doesnt give us the information of it because its God minded not to reveal the secret. Adam& Eve Only Once. When you think of celebrity twins, famous duos like Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen or Tegan and Sara Quin might come to mind. http://www.js.emory.edu/BLUMENTHAL/GenTradRashiRashbam.html. We dont hear about them, except in passing in Genesis 5, because they arent part of a story like Cain and Abel were. Read a study bible or the Amplified version. Why? The preadamites have nothing to do with a gap theory. However, if Adam is the faculty of intellectual wisdom and Eve is the emotional nature of love, something missing in any/all other beings on the planet at the time, we might come to understand the tendencies of man and woman, plus understand what makes us as we are today, complete people, as in a balance of the two. day of creation. The Books of Adam & Eve,(VITA ADAE ET EVAE) From The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament, R.H. Charles Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1913 says: that Seth had 30 brothers & 30 sisters alive, at the burial of Adam (6)And the angels Michael and Uriel buried Adam and Abel in the parts of Paradise, before the eyes of Seth and his mother (7) [and no one else], and Michael and Uriel said: Just as ye have seen, in like manner, bury your dead. xlix (1) Six days after, Adam died; and Eve perceived that she would die, (so) she assembled all her sons (2) and daughters, Seth with thirty brothers and thirty sisters, and Eve said to all, Hear me, my children, and I will tell you what the archangel Michael said to us when I and your father transgressed the command of God (3) On account of your transgression, Our Lord will bring upon your race the anger of his judgement, first by water, the second time by fire; by these two, will the Lord judge the whole human race.xlix (1) Six days after, Adam died; and Eve perceived that she would die, (so) she assembled all her sons (2) and daughters, Seth with thirty brothers and thirty sisters, and Eve said to all, Hear me, my children, and I will tell you what the archangel Michael said to us when I and your father transgressed the command of God (3) On account of your transgression, Our Lord will bring upon your race the anger of his judgement, first by water, the second time by fire; by these two, will the Lord judge the whole human race. Adam wished that each should marry the sister of the other; but Cain's sister was the handsomer of the two and had been born in paradise; while Abel and his sister had been begotten outside of the garden. You do not hold to an evolutionary model? who he eventually married and Abel was part of a set of triplets Genesis chapters 3 and 4 present the following information: (1) Eve was the mother of everyone living. (2) Time elapsed between the birth of Cain and his offering the sacrifice that was rejected by God. In the November/December 2013 issue of BAR, Mary Joan Winn Leith addresses these questions and explores the identity of the wife of Cain in Who Did Cain Marry?. Are they without sin and were they taken out of the garden? So Cain says to Abel, 'Let us go over into the . In the ancient Near East, sometimes those outside of a particular group or society were considered less human by those inside of the group. Thank you Lord for Noah Douglas McCain, 58; Andrew McCain, 56; Sidney McCain, 51; Meghan McCain, 33. Why? Adam and Eve never existed. 3:19 as evidence that from the dust equals the womb. shed my blessing on them ere I die. their sister who was born with them. day of creation. we are say elot of things but never knew the right truth. 4. Open your minds to the evidence that is all around you. You start off with being a false teacher. God is love..and God loves Cain so much (even after he murdered his brother) enough to provide him a wife. Cain had other siblings and could have been married before the curse, it doesnt matter. The real issue is that the creation story is not original to the Hebrew people. The preadamites were transient hunters-gatherers. There was no Hebrew word for ball/sphere, not even dur. My book tells you all that, Historical Genesis from Adam to Abraham. Could have already been here and that is where Cains wife came from. Earlier (comment 17) I referred to attempts to infer the original population size and how they overestimate the original size. Could cain had married the offspring of a fallen angel??? Neither the Bible nor the church taught that you would fall off the edge of the world. The beginning of Gen. 5 is just a summary from the preadamites (Verse 1-2) to Adam (verse 3) and so on. They intermarry and even I have some HN in me. Later Eve gave birth to a second set of twins, Abel (Habil) and his sister. That sums it up, God said it, He is in authority not any human who denies the truth of scripture by inturpteting scripture through the lens of their own philosophy. If you read Genesis Chapter 1 verse 26 It says Let us make man in our image, after our likeness & have Dominion over..Etc. In the case of consensual incest, there is a possibility that one or both parties are acting out the negative effects of previous sexual abuse suffered personally or witnessed as a child. Stop spreading mis-/disinformation! If Adam and Eve ate the fruit while others didnt then there would be immortal human beings and they would not have remained on this miserable sin filled planet but God would have taken them elsewhere. Share What does an appellative form verses a proper name have to do with what I have said? Any other human beings would have had to come from the sexual relation of Adam and Eve. The worldwide flood destroyed everyone as confirmed in 2 Peter 2 and 3, so comparing the pre-flood civilizations to modern near east cultures that ignore distant settlements is in either disingenuous or ignorant. Spouse. Amen. You can twist the scriptures all you want, to try to fit in evolution, but it doesnt work. Asa and banah refer to the action of building an object, by definition, out of existing material. These are the people that Cain was afraid to meet, after having killed Abel and as a consequence of his act. What is being asked in, Who did Cain marry? Your claim that ish and ishshah are only used for humans is wrong. See also (Genesis 6:17, 7:15, etc.). Theyre just the human beings from the first chapter. I was just answering your challenge. Genesis 5:4 tells us that Adam and Eve begat sons and daughters. Josephus, the Jewish historian, states that The number of Adams children, as says the old tradition, was thirty-three sons and twenty-three daughters. The point, of course, is that Adam and Eve did have many children. I think it is obvious, that there were humans (so-called preadamites) before Adam and Eve. 1, Ch. Also the used verbs of the first chapter (asah, bara) have completely different meanings as those (jatzar, banah) of the second one. Mervyn. And, since the offspring was only the 2nd to 3rd generation of man then the DNA was much closer to perfect than it is today so incest was not a concern then. Notice he was OK with that until Eve came along and in Genesis 3:12 Adam blamed God for giving him the woman.now, I wonder where have I heard that before!!!!!!! Almost every day some People experienced the events of this story. Share 2 And she again bare his brother Abel. But, besides the fact this is an easy question to answer, does it really matter whether or not we can answer it? In the first statement you propose evolution which, like the last statement uses natural reproduction. And It could be by that time because life was still quite pristine Adam & Even could have had several other children, daughters, perhaps, or even granddaughters that Cain might have married. That was the key relationship between them, not their kinship. God does not condone murder (or war), God does not condone utilizing money or giving other humans power or authority. There were no other people on earth at that time. This is usually because of societal taboos or fear of genetic defects. The Gulf has receded since then leaving Ur well inland. In other words, the unique nuptial blessing granted the first couple in the Garden of Eden did not end there but was also gifted to others. Radar shows that it was fed by four large river systems: The Tigris and Euphrates from the North, a large river system Pishon from the west (Arabia) and another large system Gihon from the South, which flowed from Cush (Yemen and Oman) . The story of Cain and Abel shows us how pride, envy, jealousy, rage, and even vanity cause us to commit unthinkable acts that destroy Gods creation of love. There is no clear biblical evidence to support the view that Cain and Abel may have been twins. THAT ALL BUT PROVES DISSEMINATION FROM ONE ORIGINAL SOURCE. Adam may have been the first to know God. Lenin implemented social programs and began starving and slaughtering whole societies whom he regarded as herds of animals. EnochCain / Children Pseudo-Philo, a Jewish work of the first century CE, narrates that Cain murdered his brother at the age of 15. . This is exactly what your local weatherman does every day. This is an obvious question to anyone who looks at the Bible with non-fundamentalist open eyes. Looking at recent work done by sociologists and anthropologists, she notes that when forming a group identity, we tend to define ourselves by how we differ from other groups. The "Tree" in the Garden represents the Races. If we add some other group of people not descended from Adam and Eve, the entire story of the Tree of Knowledge and Tree of Life and the 7 day creation and Adams longing for a helpmeet which is then made from his side becomes nonsensical. Here are guidelines to help facilitate a meaningful learning experience for everyone. Who were the other people that could kill Cain? The Bible is a spiritual book. So, Cain married a HN woman. There were other people created BESIDES Adam and Eve. Inter-family procreation is likely to cause genetic deformities today. Neshamah does not mean spirit of knowledge. The breath of life refers to living and breathing. SO THERE WAS NOTHING LIKE PREADAMIC. out of 12 whom the jews have managed to deceive the entire In contrast to the lowly and coarse nature of the vital soul we have the neshamah (breath), a holy force, whose principle function is to guide man along the right path and to draw him near to God. 1:1; Jn. If so, you might want to check out Genesis 1:2 which uses a waw disjunctive. well that was a lot of side stepping for a very clear cut passage. The book of Genesis mentions three of Adam and Eve's children: Cain, Abel and Seth. They are only having babies which concludes that they could be getting married to their sisters and even their mothers. It was these near relatives of whom Cain was afraid. This seems a strange thing to say given that the Old and New Testaments, as well as ancient Hebrew and Christian commentaries taught that our bodies will rise again from the dust. Report, October 23 2014 http://in-africa.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Powell-A-et-al-2009-Science-Late-Pleistocene-demography-and-the-appearance-of-modern-human-behaviour.pdf, Bovid Domestication? 1.5, and it becomes obvious, what I try to explain. Aclima Aclima (also Kalmana, Lusia, Cainan, or Luluwa) according to some religious traditions was the oldest daughter of Adam and Eve, the twin sister of . And in Acts 17:26, Paul states that the God who made the world hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth.. Gen 3:20 Adam named his wife Eve because she would be the mother of all who live Scientists report that many unique genetic disorders [] result when communities begin or persist with small founding populations and cultural isolation, according to the National Center for Biotechnology Information. Balbira & Kalmana were the respective wives and twin sisters of Abel & Cain. Case closed. (ie man was not created but evolved). And the majority doesnt count, as well. THIS man and his wife Chavah Eve were LIVING souls. If that was where the Garden of Eden was, then there is a place sounding much like Nod after that narrow exit from that area. After that [when God put a mark on Cain], Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, to the east of Eden. Lilith, Assuming that Adrian and Menashe are still talking about Genesis 1 and 2, there are no glitches.. Everyone seems to ignore Genesis 5:3-4 (more sons and daughters) and the fact that no time scale is given. A figment of imagination. This seems to foreshadow the blood avenger, who was usually a family member. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8117915.stm, Modern Culture Over 40,000 Yrs. Case in point: Do I live in your house? Its highly presumptuous to say that the Hebrew story is any more real than the Greek, Egyptian or Sumerian. WOW, I dony know who is right or wrong on this stream, bit it is wonderful to read so many knowledgable people discussing this important issue. Because they were very sinful and out of Gods regulations. Now that said, I am more interested in what my creator took from Adam and made Eve his soulmate. Thus, these are the same two humans in both chapters of Genesis. Thats why the traditional exegesis of Adams arising is ridiculous. Guess what we find in the area of the Arabian river system: gold, bdellium and onyx. The creation days are long periods of time and we are still in the 7th day (Hebrews 4; John 5:16-17). Mary Joan Winn Leith first explores the traditional Jewish and Christian answers that contend that the wife of Cain was another daughter of Adam and Eve. God isnt a jew, Adam wasnt a jew, Noah wasnt a jew, When He created Adam and Eve He formed Adam from the ground and Breathed His God breath or His Spirit into Adam, and of course it was automatically transfered into Eve when she took her first breath. Eve bore sixty-three children, thirty-two daughters, and thirty-one sons, before the default. You MUST either accept the existence of other Humans outside of Eden or abandon your faith and reason. (The number 8 always means New Beginnings.) Mahalaleel one hundred. To know the meaning of the mark indicates someone familiar with Cain and what God had done for him. So he is got got married to one of his sister. Yes, it's unfair that Cain, as a farmer, inherited his father's curse. Somehow Moses knew what the land looked like at least 16,000 years before he was born. its a little tricks on that. Love your enemy, and Pray for those who have enmity towards you. Also, we know that when in harmony and love a new physical child is born, so is the balance between Adam and Eve in the spiritual sense, that means new birth for we who already exist. Lastly, Jesus in Mark 10:6-8 combines the language of Genesis 1 and 2. Adam was formed from and therefore made up of dust (elements of the earth), and we are likewise made up of dust (Gen. 2:7, 3:19; Job 10:9, 34:15; Psalm 103:14; Eccl. Biblical Archaeology Society, "Who Were the Ammonites, Moabites and Edomites in the Bible?" You know that you are sweeping the whole OT off the table and you are making God and/or all is servants and prophets in the OT out to be liars? Why did God accept Abel's offering but reject Cain's offering? What if Cain simply had a twin sister? Why do people who dont even believe that there was a literal person name Cain care about who he married? but chapter 2 shows us of how God accomplished His intentions. IF marriage among siblings is prohibited once it is always against Gods laws and rules. Geb and Nut in the Hebrew pantheon are Adam and Eve who begot four twin sons, two males Abel and Cain, and two females. The higher the vote, the further up an answer is. Cain didnt marry his sister, he got his wife from the land of Nod. Yatsar refers to the molding and shaping of an object. Here is your ticket to join us as we discover more and more about the biblical world and its people. I would follow the Biblical account , that would make the most sense. Luke 3:36 tells us of a Cainan which Genesis 11 leaves out. Why did Cain then kill Abel? i actually have this as an assessment based assignment so please any more useful findings are very appreciated. And the days of Adam after his fathering Seth came to be eight hundred years. If Abel was Cursed, then if this meant when you say curse, then perhaps he was cursed. This is because today humans have lots of mistakesbecause of the cursein their genes. - Yahshua Christ. fasting, praying, and with hard labours, until the end of our father Adams Im definitely an advocate in the case for God. In His wisdom, there are some things a bit difficult to reconcile. They have the same body. Therefore, there is no reason to assume they the words refer to different humans in chapters one and two. Take the KNOWLEDGE, WISDOM, and LAWS of the Old Testament, and run them through the love of Jesus and the cross. Kabil and Habil Palestine Kabil and Habil, or Cain and Abel, with their two sisters, were the first children born to Adam and Eve. Be very careful I suggest when it comes to matters concerning the Lord and His written Word. Abel. Analog to this, there were no circumscribed fields, but the humans gathered fruits, cabbage, seed and whathaveyou (Gen. 1.28). 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