Also, his "scientific" answer is simply a logical answer, the physics code was not changed. Sadly, this time about HaxBall Champions League (HCL) final that just happened yesterday. I play on 28 extrap, 1920x1080, 1.25x Zoom, 100% res, 60fps because laptop screen 60hz. @Meyer511 Yes, I've said it. but now? by basro. ayrca oyundayken muhabbete . At first 100 extrapolation will seem laggy and useless, but in the long run, the 100ms prediction helps A LOT with the skill, you bounce the ball on the wall, but you see everything 100ms in the future, you can control it way better once your brains adapt to it, do faster tricks, etc. Only the host can use this command. From what I gather the things proposed are: Regarding the fake kick, it's a feature in the sense that prediction is a feature. Some businesses may choose to continue requiring customers to wear masks to enter or receive service. 1st step in the right direction would be to strip extrapolation of all the advantages, except reducing delays, the reason it was implemented for. Make sure your sound is on! A room will stay among your Favourites (use the favrooms command in the command-line to see them all) regardless of it being online or not, as long as its name doesnt change. Notes let you store text snippets you may want to save up for later. Need any support? : 6, 3 Starting out, don't be too clever trying to style on others. to your account. It makes you a better player over people not using extrapolation, pretty much by synthetic cheating, but at the cost of having a fun and smooth gameplay. Pause (P): Para pausar o jogo, aperte a tecla P. Nmero/Nome do Avatar: Para mudar o nmero/nome do avatar, digite o comando /avatar (nmero/nome). Fake kicks happen when the prediction was wrong. these are some haxball avatar combos ive saved up, feel free to use them. this game was fun to play, there were lots of players, leagues back then. Example:/colorsred 60 FFFFFF 0080FF 004077 002033. So basro, plz read our comments and at least try to change something. If you liked making the game, then you should listen people playing your game and compare thoughts = more money = more updates. https://i.ibb.co/PCm3qp6/448ef7c93a19fdcaa19bd8f532dfdca2.png. It is impossible for it to affect how other players see the results of your input. : 10, 2 First jasko can intercept the ball cleanly because he made a perfect read on Doktor, instead of a a random spam tackle that cant be controlled. That's why there are always drama on FM 4v4 (only European league 4v4) -> https://www.fm-haxball.co.uk , there we just keep getting more and more protest about macro players, why? The old heavy movement is the key for this game to be good again, with patterns skills tactics tackles and more all being at a much higher level (mostly thanks to patterns in all those situations, which disappear when theres no Tiny Input Delay). The way in which HaxBall detects your location is not infallible and. I don't mind on the design, doesn't even matter. This is a good example of the FLASH Heavier Movement (Input Delay) physics. Avatar Would it hurt to consider it, or even let us test a room with it at least? 2. Well according to Saviola its very simple to add an artificial Input Delay. To do so, you can create a new shortcut by entering in the command bar, so that every time you type in the game chat /e you will instead get /extrapolation. The chat toggle is at the top (game goals/time bar). I can only guess that you're probably very busy and you rather ignore some of the bugs/problems. yoksa ok kfr yersiniz. For example: if you are afk and don't want to be kicked. you can give or remove admin privileges without Admin status. Hide NavBar feature: annoyed by the lost of screen estate from the navigation bar? regards. Only admins can use this command. These players in Flash were just too trash for this game because it took more skills to be good as us (oldschool players), now they're like us when it comes about skills, because the "extrapolation" is making these players way too easy to make tricks, that's why we all can't create chances. For instance, if you constantly need to type "!admin" to chat, you can assign it as ".ad" and that will automatically expand to "!admin". By adding extrapolation you have added a big issue that affects ALL players. Mask requirements. When you're using this mode, you'll appear more shaky (as if you were using a lot of extrapolation). Also, mute the whole room by clicking the Mute Room button :) If you host a bot and would like to be added to the mute whitelist, please send me a Discord message at xenonsb#9313. I feel like we're fighting for "meta" (where I said in my first post, that it's not luck anymore). ignore few people, most of players are used to it and have no problem using extrapolation. Two new buttons have been added to the Room list view: Add Room and Show Rooms. HaxBall is a physics-based multiplayer soccer game where teamwork is key. The problem is that Basro doesn't play the game (or he actually plays, but not competitively), to understand the game well to understand people what they wanna say. Nothing in this issue is useful, I've read it all. You'll get a desktop notification when you are moved into a team. Well, basro I love the communication, that's what's the most important thing to me. Well occasionally send you account related emails. Added one-click to leave, so you can leave rooms without a second confirm button (disabled by default). I still don't agree that it gives you an advantage, but if I could I would tell myself in the past not to implement it just to avoid this current situation. minis the minimum number of logic-frames between two kicks. When chat is hidden, you can still use the "Tab" key to quickly access chat - and after you're done with sending your message, the chat area will disappear :) , -200 200ms . In my opinion, the game is slowly dying but that's normal, who wanna play "flash" game in 2020, the hype is over. Even Abduction pressed x, but didn't work because of extrapolation, obviously. Don't just go chasing after the ball all the time. Click the button when in the room to remove it :) Activates or deactivates the recaptcha requirement to join the room. A long-delayed feature - "I did in fact lag" shortcut, double click the ping graph (or ping area) to send info about your ping, max ping, fps, and red bars. 45:00, no any hate on Smokin' Aces, well played, guys. Using high extrapolation values doesn't make your "fake kick" strats more effective. This is where in HTML he wouldn't be punished for his mistake. As a recent discoverer of Haxball, I'm impressed at the level of skill of many players, but I'm struggling to replicate anything they do. : A seguir estamos listando uma srie de comandos que o jogo apresenta. Another cool feature is the HTML color picker, which lets you input RBG hexa colors. Items in sync storage are synced by the browser. : 4, 5 They cant. Would be nice if you could try some things, though. Estas son:: Real Soccer, Futsal, Tenis, Volleyball, HandBall y Big. It is recommended to leave this at 0 unless you have input delay. : 9, 16 No es una trampa, ni tampoco es un hack, ni un crack, ni un cheat. "/avatar " looks like a scribbled 96. D, Flash HaxBall, HTML5 HaxBall and "extrapolation", https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?nagranie=cb02beef55922cf42e641effe712bed4, https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?nagranie=0dabecffd607cf9788c77c957ae4cff4, https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?nagranie=2d8dadb4b2491a014fa5cfbe3fa839bd, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hmY5TWERnw&t=48m28s, https://fm-haxball.co.uk/community/viewtopic.php?p=91629#p91629. Your extrapolation settings will have no effect on how others percieve the game. c) the HaxBall Champions League final: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?nagranie=2d8dadb4b2491a014fa5cfbe3fa839bd 37:11, 39:42, 44:06, new meta = random goals, not luck and that's it. Using extrapolation amplifies the effect of prediction errors, but only for your own client. No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth. No, the server cannot check the extrapolation. Yes, players can abuse it. O Haxball apresenta comandos que podem ser utilizados durante uma partida. Effective Apr. Pay attention at how your opponents are moving and take advantage of their momentum. /kick_ratelimit <min> <rate> <burst> If you are an admin of the room, click ESC in the room player list view to add the [K]ick and [B]an buttons. If you can't add some 0.05msec delay to movement and kicks, then I have another idea/feature request, I'll make a new thread on that, please dont take it as spam since its a new feature request based on what you've just told me, not spamming the same complaints as before. /handicap 200 - To add lag (ping) to yourself and reduce it to other players. Join either the red or blue team. Download from the buttons on the left or from the Releases page the .zip file with the version for your OS and unzip it. Here are some basic rules: never let an player of the other team be closet player to your goal. Click here to read the FAQ page. Feed Me was formed in July 2011 and we are now in our 36th season after starting a 3v3 league in October of that year. So trying to fix a small problem, has caused a new bigger problem. By selecting a room in the list and then clicking the Add Room button, such room will be added to the list of your Favourite Rooms, and will be easily accessible by clicking the Show Rooms button. Damn, just see how likes I got, I think my topic is most liked HaxBall topic on Github at the moment, @basro please, at least listen to some player and speak with him (like @Jacob-1998 or @iscoman) about why, how, what, etc. And the client can be modified, I could just remove the check client-side and bypass the limit. Download (Windows) Download (Mac) Download (Linux) Feedback. So a lot of people are using higher extrapolation to get the power of mindfucking opponents with fake kicks and such, since it's impossible to trust your own eyes anymore in this era of Haxball. The unofficial desktop app of the haxball browser game. Sets the password for the room. Now imagine having 8 players on the pitch abusing the same thing. It can only ask the client "what extrapolation are you using?" This allows you to press while always seeing the 'worst case scenario' (the heavy/longer movement the opponent could use to kick the ball past you), which makes it very easy to press and always go as close as possible WHILE never moving too close that you won't reach 'the worst case scenario' if you opponent uses that, because you are always seeing the heavy/longer movements much earlier. X Turbo v1.0.0. The bigger the value of extrapolation the bigger the stuttering. Extrapolation was introduced to help the players with input delay, but the amount of players who have that problem is a small minority. Basically, the ball will always be ejected in the direction formed by the center of your player and the point at which you're touching the ball. By adding extrapolation you have added a big issue that affects ALL players. Personally, i change my extra once in a while but its always on the same scale, 80 - 100, dunno if im weird or smth, but i just got used to it and so far its fine and i keep on playing on a 2x zoom without changing it. C, Also pay attention to the dynamics of bounces in corners, it gets trickier there with double bounces, but you can pull off some neat tricks once you figure it out. But we're having huge problem at the moment if not since extrapolation has been added. In these top matches (mostly 4v4 gamemode) you simply can't create chances like you used to be in Flash HaxBall even though I'm still one of the best players who have won anything (I'm not gonna say my name, people will now call me as nonamer as expected). I basically noticed it's much harder to create something in attack, so with certain positioning you can neutralize even the best players in the game, but I don't want to play like this, no one does, I could be greedy and want it to stay this way, since I found a way to "abuse" it, but it's not enjoyable. Bouncing the ball against walls is the best way to evade opponents, but figuring out the right angle/distance at which to kick the ball against the wall takes practice. Room Search (original idea by Raamyy): quickly filter rooms by their room names (or partial room names) using the search bar above the room list. : 9, 3 Comes together with the text expansion macro. -, 11 . Yes people will complain like always, but right now so many people complain about HTML anyway. New in version 0.3.1: due to mis-use of kick/ban shortcuts, they're now set to double-click. If someone's using high extrapolation value, he'll be more effective when he's about to fake kick (easier to fake kick if you know what I mean), but not for someone who is using 20 extrapolation even if it doesn't have effect for other players, for example. This particular shortcut is included by the default in the client, but you can create whatever shortcut you want (even entire messages)! We analyzed Haxcolors.com page load time and found that the first response time was 367 ms and then it took 1.3 sec to load all DOM resources and completely render a web page. Ver ms EQUIPOS INSCRIPTOS Conoc a todos los equipos que ya se unieron a las Grandes Ligas HaxBall. When playing in a team try to pick a role and stick to it. The files provided here are complied from various sources around the web and are for educational & evaluation purposes only. ^^, Well, fake kick should in theory work like you said, but in reality, guys with high (100-200) extrapolation, doing fake kicks or standard movement will appear laggy and jittery to others, even if you're using 0 extra (unplayable with delays, even 30-40 that I'm using now is giving me a fair bit of delay, but extrapolation just ruins the game, even though it gives advantages on top tier of haxball). There's no cheat proof way to implement this. These are real problems that have gone on for too long, Haxball can do much better than this and I know you can too, its possible. Extrapolation If you want to view your extrapolation without entering a room or opening the console, type in the command bar extra Although I don't support the choice, since it was highly requested a command to uncap the extrapolation is also available extraunlock You only need to launch this command once. Haxball Cheats and Haxball is an extremely fun game to play. Simply right click their name and press the mute button! This is because the Flash Engine added a tiny Input Delay (please basro find out this number), which gave so much structure and predictability to the game, which is now disappeared completely. 150, cant see anything but have to adapt.. Why do people use extrapolation and what advantage does it give? You signed in with another tab or window. The main reason would be the major advantage that extrapolation gives. Sadly that is futsal map currently the biggest map on HTML5 HaxBall at the moment, which is expected since it reminds me on good old days and it's not based on battle spams. I'm just showing these goals to @basro how it feels playing HTML5 HaxBall. For the best information on whether your ancestors' town was in Hesse, Hesse-Nassau, or Waldeck and . The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: Good post and nice to see others raising the same concerns. Example:/kick_ratelimit 2 15 3If a player spams kick hell kick every 2 frames for the first 4 kicks and after that hell be limited to one kick every 15 frames ( which is 4 kicks per second ). Primero hay que asegurarse que est cerrado el HaxBall de cualquier navegador de Internet. a) the title deciding match: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?nagranie=cb02beef55922cf42e641effe712bed4 3:55, 8:22, 13:35. I don't want to keep repeating myself. I've already explained why it can't be removed. If the player doesnt kick for 1 second hell save enough for another burst of 4 kicks. At the moment the app runs the default game. I agree with Jacob the old gameplay in flash was much more fun and skillful. Please try to understand that I can't spend hours trying to explain things in here. Every mistake in Flash HaxBall was punishment, which we all took it seriously and played safe how it should be. Vague make physics "like they were before": This doesn't help me, physics are the same in the code. For instance, let's say you want to look for spacebounce rooms and soccer rooms at the same time. Admin Kick/Ban shortcuts: having difficulties kicking or banning abusive users quickly? I don't do it out of spite. : 3, 8 However, the longer prediction you ask for, the bigger the margin for error. I've been reaching out to you for a long time now to give you my opinion on how the game feels and compares to flash on the highest level. But apparently it can be abused? 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