That Scientology limits its treatment to exercise, PTS handlings and vitamins is very suppressive. This was about her daughter and how she ( Kathy ) and Scientology failed Taylor! Not any longer. I dont think you do. And as to people like my dad, well, Scientology starts as basic self help courses with a strong pop psychology aspect to them. One keeps building on the wisdom because ones data in the world of duality keeps increasing, while at the same time ones ability to connect with the divine (non-duality) also increases. As opposed to Laurens Haggis narrative, mine is not hearsay. Criminal acts are not covered by the first amendment. Instead, they consume information from what they consider trusted sources (Leah, Mike, Tony O, etc), which aligns with their own convictions and emotions. All the quotes you have seen from Cathy Tweed came from Tonys conversation with Taylers mother the day after she buried her daughter. There are always at least two sides to every story usually many more. Obituaries. Ill believe that until my death. She was making contact with family members who had left the church, and expressing her outrage at church fundraising and treatment of SO staff. Then I watched a YouTube video from the Vulcan First Officer Chris Shelton where he was using Critical thinking to mock that absurd idea of an Anti-Scientology Cult. Most is like talk therapy. Well, do all mothers make some mistakes? "Tweed" Mummert passed away at McDonough District Hospital on January 3rd, just 3 weeks shy of his 98 th birthday. This is all about protecting David Miscavige and the Church. He was a graduate of Middle Township High School's "Class of 69" and was a member of the reunion committee, helping to plan all class reunions. Is my post to be interpreted that there arent many, many psychiatrists who try to do the best they can do for their patients, and who concentrate on less invasive, and more alternative ways of effectively treating their patients? Technically, what Mike and Leah are doing IS a documentary. We must become auditors TO THEM if we are to expect any reformations to happen. In fact, the year after may still be the same day. He clearly knew NOTHING of what was actually happening. Nice try, Gtsix, but I know better than to fall into the traps of rhetoric,. Caring for the insane is costly and time-consuming and requires resources. There is a lot of information that neither Tony Ortega, nor Rachel Bernstein, nor Leah Remini, nor Mike Rinder have given you. I could not do anything like that. Why is that? Sure. AGAIN Claire, you sre ASSUMING that just because a THIRD PARTY who has ABSOLUTELY no personal knowledge of such events but mostly through hearsay not backed up by ANY texts of FB posts, ANYTHING is saying so. At one point in time, this lady dared to question one of her husbands beliefs, which enraged the man resulting in a heavy beating and even rape of this lady. So what. Certainly, any raw public exhibiting Type III behaviour would be refused service.. Leah Remini is very aware of this, and is using it to her advantage, but in an irresponsible way, IMHO. Charles Cain. Way to absolutely avoid the question. One sane and balanced comment, at last! For now, we cant expect many resources from Tyler Tweeds family as they are not in the right mood to describe Tyler Tweeds death. You are not the victim in this story, there is only one. What the fuck do you call what you are doing? And unfortunately, human misery and tragedy have entertainment value. Lets put Karen De La Carriere on that list, and we are all set, That specific group of 6, plus their sheeple decided upon a VERY specific narrative since SEVERAL years ago, and since then their specific agenda DOES NOT include reformation AT ALL. Through my career and lived experience I have worked intimately with survivors of suicide. Clearly people go through much worse situations and never commit suicide. We assure you that we will regularly update all the information regarding Tyler Tweeds death when the details are made aware. That is what a strawman is. There are MANY viewpoints. On Saturday, a memorial was held for her at Scientology's Hollywood Celebrity Centre as family and friends gathered to remember the attractive young woman who had been working on a career in music and acting (as Tayler DeBari). Dj Sumbody Obituary, What was Dj Sumbody Cause of Death? Uhmmm, I prefer to give him the chance to change, and to help him see better ways at doing things. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. With that being said, lets further investigate the truth and details of Tyler Tweed Obituary. Wow, what a most accurate and balanced post indeed!!! Ok, got it, and I am sorry for the long comm lag in replying. Date Listed: 23/2/2023. But the one thing I disagree with Tony on is that the church had nothing to do with her suicide. Im sure you know that there are other religions that dont believe in medical treatment, either and that this is actually a matter of freedom of religion. We considered as Illegal PCs among other things, of course those who had actually ATTEMPTED, not just thought of suicide. Would you want those teachings to be licensed? She states that she did take her daughter to doctors, but what kind of doctors? I am a long time friend of Taylers and have been in touch with her over the last several months. Finally, someone has told the REAL story..the Church of Scientology did NOTHING to help this poor girlit cast her out. Leah and Mike heroes??? The Horror! I can see the public interest perspective with this series and and other productions that seek to find a story and tell it,, it has been created with key words cult secret confidential gulag ,, and so on not to mention the mood music and lighting,,, Its what media does,, its never enough just to have a story confined to the specifics and analyse it,,,no one buys that approach anymore. Nobody does. You do know that the nazis invaded countries and built concentration camps, right? I understand. And how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment? I am glad Leah and Mike are finally getting the truth out there. Of course he knows. http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Scientology_Suicides#The_dead_cannot_tell_us, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder, (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). NC, and Patricia Gayle Mills of Monroe, NC; and grandchildren, Taylor Tweed, Alexia Tweed, Nathan Tweed, and Harper Tweed. I quote from it : Injuries, operations, delivery of babies, severe illnesses and periods of intense emotional shock all deserve to be handled with thorough and complete assists., Medical examination and diagnosis should be sought where needed, and where treatment is routinely successful, medical treatment should be obtained., As an assist can at times cover up an actual injury or broken bone, no chances should be taken, especially if the condition does not easily respond. This show wasnt about Kathy Tweed! If I were to drop dead in the sauna then the cult could say, Well he passed his physical exam by a medical doctor. But the second time was before another cycle of action. Thats what I call being able to see truth for what it is. Mike does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING when a Scientologist post a comment there at his blog, and a lot of commenters start attacking him/her left and right with all kinds of insults, just because that Scientologist says something (ANYTHING) positive about LRH or Scn. Please, give me a fucking break!!!! Scientology was. Does he read minds now? : So, to answer your question, Gtsix, about, .how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment?, my answers to that is :, But somehow I feel that you HAD already seen that part of my reply the first time I posted it, . Lauren detailed her friendship with fellow second-generation Scientologist Tayler Tweed, whom she met as a teen fresh out of the Sea Org. The only related reference I know of concerns those who have had psychiatric drugs or who have been institutionalized. There isnt really hate involved. Lila will be intered beside her husband Dan, at St. Carthagh's Cemetery, Tweed, on Saturday, November 20 at 1 PM CASSIBO: Agnes Theresa, at Belmont Long Term Care, Belleville, on October 15, 2021. "Tayler Tweed's suicide and Aaron Poulin's: Both happened in So. But if we are going to blame and criticize Scientologists for this, then I am afraid, that we would have to do the same with MILLIONS of Americans, to not mention the other millions from other countries. By assumptions, I meant what was presented on the episode 2 of The Aftermath season 2. Do you see the absurdity of your argument, Mr. Critical Thinking? They know who they are,, and will leave it at that. I wanted to go quietly, but they would have none of it.. Butlets go get tattoos so we can feel better about it. B) A thorough medical examination by a REAL doctor to locate possible deficiencies, and unknown illnesses or injuries; and a professional medical treatment done on whatever was found. In fact when I was in I was told to go to a medical doctor twice. He was a member of the Northumberland County Good News Club. Tayler Weldon DeBari November 13, 1986 -. Its psychology and psychology that are not allowed-not that Im ok with that. This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. It is the narrative of blame, destroy, and stereotyping others, and the attempt to make believe that some specific instances represent the attitudes of ALL Scientologists, that makes it wrong. That point aside, what you say in the following about the church is really the basic and most important issue at stake: If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license.. He was announced dead on Thursday 15th December on Facebook. I am Jim Dandy and Im here to the rescue. She was 27. Leave a sympathy message to the family in the guestbook on this memorial page of Mary Marguerite Taylor to show support. Survey their public for disagreements wish the existing policies, and correct/modify them accordingly. That must be the most fallacious argument that Ive ever heard! They, incorrectly, do not give it the attention it deserves. And if by prove them wrong, you meant specific legal actions (like a lawsuit) against Leah, Mike, or A&E for saying things that werent true; then the same logic could be used the other way around : If the church is guilty of soooooooo many illegal actions and specifics abuses, then why (except for Snow White and the non productive of ANY evidence, FBI human trafficking investigation into Scn) hasnt ANY law enforcement agency taken the church to court? We let them do courses, but not to get processed, until some evidence of case stability was evident. But if my honest attempts at correcting anyone doesnt yield good results and sensible reformations, them I am obliged to act according for the greater good. As have many very cruel people before you. But the information presented regarding Tyler Tweed is true, and we found a few threads on Twitter honoring much information about Tyler Tweeds obituary. Way to absolutely avoid the question.. This was around 2000 more or less. I beg to differ, Statpush, and I am not trying to influence your opinion here. Lets follow your logic with an analogy, shall we? I went in GREAT details EXACTLY quoting from the that episode all the parts where Leah, Mike, and Lauren BLAMED Cathy Tayler for the death of her daughter without showing one IOTA of proof beyond HEARSAY. If people come to me and are not ready to abandon their fathers, mothers, wives, children, brothers, and sisters, as well as their own lives, they cannot be my disciples.. If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license. {This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. Im sure you know that there are other religions that dont believe in medical treatment, either and that this is actually a matter of freedom of religion. And how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment?, Nice try, Gtsix, but I know better than to fall into the traps of rhetoric, . This is about a PERSONAL AGENDA of desires of destruction and revenge, while cleverly (and DISGUSTINGLY) manipulating human emotion. MARSHALL - Tyler S. Tweed, age 24, passed away unexpectedly on Wednesday, December 14, 2022, in Iowa. Why is that? Otherwise, you can forget about getting audited. Honestly Statpush, does that sound like an agenda for reformation to you? I think A&E should interview Cathy Tweed and give her time on their network after what has been done to her. Painting her as a drug addicted person who would not do the work is revolting. C) Getting the person to move to a non stressful environment and to temporarily get away from hostile people and environments. The No.1 site across the UK for funeral notices, where you can search over 5,004,817 notices. "Because of something that took place earlier in the day, I am writing this tonight with a sad heart because of what has been going on. And they are all good friends, as far as I know. Mary, no offense, but you are either naively buying into what Mike Rinder and Leah Remini are saying in The Aftermath because you dont know much about Scientologys policies as you were never a Scientologist yourself, or you were involved with Scientology but were not very familiar with its policies. She states that she did take her daughter to doctors, but what kind of doctors? Tyler is a 2016. He married Nelda Niceswanger on Oct. 27, 1956, in Chetek. The unlikeliness of reform does not come from a group but only from one single individual. Now because this police officer that wouldd be YOU thinks that the statements from ANYBODY who follows a psychotic fundamentalist Jehovah Witness minister, should be considered null and void, you decides then that the lady might be lying and refuse to even investigate her claims. Do you think the church really cares what treatment a Type III receives? How about the fact that she never refers to Tayler as her daughter!! I think the important baseline to keep in mind is the law. They had Lauren Haggis on, who is a friend of Leahs family, as the vehicle to tell the story. I cant fault you on your logic., Clearly Leah and Mike have some type of agenda, and as you point out, it is not reformation., Thinking about this a bit more, the only set policy regarding suicide that Im aware of, is the routing-in metered interviews to the HGC (and possibly on sec checks), designed to filter-out undesirables. Yeah, Dave Luck, thats a very sad truth indeed! Now, looked at from the above clarifications, do you still feel the same way about it? Not that much if compared with the expected scenario. I must confess that I sort of dont have a definite position on that yet, as I must first analyze all sorts of good arguments such as yours. Ok Alanzo, thanks! In fact I flat out refused to do it. But you strawmanned the topic perfectly, refusing to answer. No, his narrative is about the punishment of DM and the destruction of the church as we know it. She never returned to the church. And how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment? As to the tax exemption thing, my own personal opinion on this is that even though that Scientology might very well fall into the category of a religion, its principal activities are not religious in nature, but psychotherapeutic as an institution that SELLS therapeutic services and make a profit from it. Many people who arent involved in Scientology believe in that. Ex Ireland rugby player David Tweed dies aged 61 | Daily Mail Online Davy Tweed, 61, played international rugby five times for Ireland in the 1990s The unionist politician was convicted of. Whether or not this is specific to sea org indoc, i dont know,, my experience has been with class 5 orgs as staff and public, tho the presence of advanced org staff has been more noticeable during the last period i was back on service 2005 -2010. But in any event, the world is full of false beliefs. This is where the word cult shows some utility it can be used to designate a group which has morals that differ from the culture surrounding it. Find Funeral Notices, Death Notices, Obituaries and Funeral Director services in Australia | page 1 Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. For Type III, I would expect the person to get a Qual program, which may include The Introspection Rundown. My local AO wouldnt deliver this, instead either hat a family member, or turn it over to a field auditor. Send flowers. Born January 15th 1928 in County Donegal and died peacefully on January. We werent supposed to accept those, but the ED (a GREAT individual indeed! They Mike Rinder and her decided on a specific narrative beforehand, and they are fishing for stories that fits and support that narrative. So lets just stick to the kindness, love, and respect, shall we? 1 2022 , , : / - , Copyright 2015 2024 rojgarlive.com All Rights Reserved. Take effective measures to correct such wrongdoings where and when they have occurred. A less loaded example of this principle is what happened with chiropractors. Are you even going to be aware of what you are saying at that time? It is called, POLICIES ON PHYSICAL HEALING, INSANITY AND SOURCES OF TROUBLE written on 27 Oct 1964 : Any process labeled healing, old or new, refers to healing by mental and spiritual means and should therefore be looked upon as the relief of difficulties arising from mental and spiritual causes., The proper procedure in being requested to heal some complained-of physical disability is as follows:, 1. Now, it is TRUE as in ANY freaking group in society that there ARE some Scientologists that get very fundamentalistic about this, and go to the fucking extremes. Now, a Scnist may not hold a medical doctor in the same regard as a non-Scnist, but that does not mean they do not utilize their services. HCO BULLETIN OF 11 JULY 1973RB RE-REVISED 21 SEPTEMBER 1978, ASSIST SUMMARY. Public relations is not the answer to the Church of Scientologys problems.. Case in point, the DeCrescenzo lawsuit brought forced abortions to the forefront, the reaction from the church no more abortions (so Im told). This makes me absolutely sad You are saying that you were taking your daughter to doctors when Scientologist dont believe in doctors she should have went to a therapist and got help when she needed it !!. And we all know that the opinion of the majority is the correct one, isnt it? But, for now, there were not many telecasts of Tyler Tweeds death cause on the news or any orbitary statements. Do you think the church really cares what treatment a Type III receives? Tyler Tweed Obituary Tyler Tweed obituary and the death were widely searched online by the people hearing the death information. Apparently it was a policy set by Hubbard that one needed to find out about any health issues and then get it or them taken care of before starting this course. She has no responsibility over the content of the episode she was in. In my OWN organization a VERY small class V org I was sent to go see a medical doctor to get lab tests and get treated in anything found before being let to start a Life Repair program. But this was something done kind of offlines, you know, where both the ED and me knew, that if we fucked it up, it was only our heads that would be cut. Why? That is pathetic. I noticed the same thing about how the staff was being turned into uncaring individuals by the implementation programs enforced by DM. But no cult has the right to break the law. Douglas R. Tweed, 84, passed away Monday, March 20, 2017, at Mayo Clinic Health System in Barron, Wis. I used to think up to just 1-2 week ago that Rathbun had gone crazy with this fantasy of his and sort of conspiracy theory about an ASC (Anti-Scientology Cult). Autor do post Por ; Data de publicao ruschell boone family; legacy obituaries huntsville, alabama em mick taylor that pedal show wife em mick taylor that pedal show wife Could you guys try to keep this somewhere in the vicinity of Cathy Tweed, Leah Remini and Scientology and the Aftermath? Jimmy Carl Richardson. Feel free to add me to your undesired list. Nice try, Thetaclear. It is unnatural. This screams Scientology to me. You wonder how could they? Yeah. I think even they would agree to that because they are not operating on the standard of getting all sides of their stories. Nothing could be further from the truth; the anti-psychiatry movement has always existed PRIOR to Scn, and has been supported by many medical doctors and psychotherapists THEMSELVES, and by a large portion of the population (though I am not quoting any percentages here, but certainly, there are in the thousands!). All documentaries have a viewpoint. For decades it was even taught in schools that they were quacks which I think was said about anything that wasnt medicine and under the control of the AMA. There is no denying that the church is guilty of many abuses even, even if some of those abuses are not exactly illegal. But, no one who watches a documentary, should walk away and think they know everything about the subject matter. Taylors folks disconnected from her and threw her out. Are we expected to believe that in the allegedly most powerful country in the world, there is a mighty church who is guilty of many illegalities left and right, but that somehow the mighty USA government is totally incapable of doing anything about it, and for DECADES? Taylors folks disconnected from her and threw her out.. I added them to the post. For Type III, I would expect the person to get a Qual program, which may include The Introspection Rundown. https://tonyortega.org/2016/04/28/a-scientologist-heading-for-suicide-the-missing-tayler-tweed-facebook-postings/. I fully agree; the church in general, need to become more compassionate. Dec. 4, 2022. So far, she has not handled the PR issues correctly, and by correctly I dont mean to lie or hide the truth. Any professional therapists SHOULD also seek legal protection, and there isnt anything immoral about that. Bristol, VA -Leo Tignor Tweed, age 81, passed on Wednesday, April 6, 2022, in Oakmont at Gordon Park. In your blog post, you write There is a lot of information that neither Tony Ortega, nor Rachel Bernstein, nor Leah Remini, nor Mike Rinder have given you, yet I see no actual proof of any information, only anecdotal accounts of how they tried to help her. But its a big stretch and a falsehood to broaden that to say the church doesnt treat the mentally ill. There are references for doing so going back to the first books, such as in Science of Survival with its Chart of Human Evaluation which specifies how to audit neurosis and psychosis. Scn, as an activity, is very much self-centered; and VERY focused on the able (e.g. Asserting that most Scientologists dont seek proper medical treatment (be it through alternative more natural methods, or through conventional medicine) when they need it, is not only false, but it is an assertion only trying to Back PR (denigrate through lies) Scientology and Scientologists. Yes, I pity this family, but they are not innocent. Or am I going too fast? Yes, this mother lost a child, but her son says they tried everything and yet they didnt. Bullshit. Seems that most of her information came from FB and text messages that Tayler had with a friend. She states very clearly that she took her to the University of Oregon where she was examined by 10 different doctors. Mental health should be under the heading of psychotherapy not under the heading of religion. Sorry that Alanzo spoiled our fun, haha. Shes not trying to look like the good guy, shes giving her side of the story. Doh! Can you really look in the mirror and say you did everything you could (breaking the bank/spending money is one of the easiest things to do by the way because it is putting the responsibility of the real work onto others). I know that you think you are making the world a better place by coming on to a blog and expressing your disgust and hatred for a mother who lost her daughter to suicide, but youre really not. This simply makes critics into hysterical ninnies who should continue to be ignored by anyone with legal power and who is serious about reforming scientology. Whereas the Aftermath program clearly had Facebook messages from Tayler asking for help, and of Cathy pushing Tayler away. Butler Funeral Homes & Cremation Tribute Center Saturday, February 25, 2023 Add Photos 2 Memories Carol J. Aarup SPRINGFIELD - Carol J. Aarup, 84, passed away Thursday, February 23, 2023, at her. I was on staff on technical lines, so I was privy to this kind of information. I am glad Leah and Mike are finally getting the truth out there. Publications: The Daily Telegraph, The Advertiser, The Courier-Mail, The Gold Coast Bulletin. But we auditors know better than to hate and punish. People are doxxing Cathy Tweed online. Friends of mine have been on it and know Leah. Sorry, Al. Basically, its not a universal given that family has to be placed first in the search for spiritual freedom unless thats your belief. I couldnt have said it any better, Statpush! I was actually picturing Paul Haggis when I typed Alex Gibney. Funeral arrangements are incomplete by Don Brown Funeral Home in Ayden, NC. I dont want to put you on the spot, but you are really putting Cathy Tweed on the spot very harshly here. I told you this little story, so that others here understand that not ALL of us were uncompassionate and ignorant of how to REALLY help someone. Do you know a reference that says they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill? Alanzo: (Mick) Peacefully at rest on 30th September 2022 at the Royal Stoke. This is what I call being fair to all sides!! Thanks Marildi; thats a VERY interesting viewpoint indeed! Getting rid of David Miscavige? I agree, but perhaps she can learn the better ways. Have you ever seen a suicide survivor have a show done about her that blames her for her daughters suicide to millions of people? I cant get my comment posted because Im telling the truth about the sham that is Scientology. Its a cult with few members and lots of real estate, paying NO TAXES. Remove (or reform, or rehabilitate) such individual form the scenario, and sanity will find its way in again, I guarantee you that. We just said, Sign here please, so you dont suit our asses, and then go ahead and do on them : A VERY high ARC kind of VERY compassionate treatment. Im truly amazed at how much the descriptions of their students barriers to awakening sound like a description of the reactive mind! To each their own on their belief system, but many things about this church dont sit well with me. But maybe others didnt know the true story of how Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed. But ask MILLIONS of Americans who are into alternative medicine and natural remedies if they will ever consider using any psychotropic drug, and I am sure that the most probable answer from the GREAT majority of them would be, NO, I would not. Ratings. Thats just rhetorical horse shit! And what does the actual record indicate with respect to what auditing can do for it? But, lets just face the facts..it was awfully tempting to run with the Tayler story because one of her best Scientology friends was the daughter of Hollywoods own Alex Gibney. I am truly sorry for the loss of your beautiful daughter. Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by RightOn, Jan 20, 2014. Instead of being referred to a mental health provider, the church attempted to sell another expensive auditing package to her family. A memorial service will . I am doing this willingly. Sorry for all my delusional conspiracies, haha. This is always a liability for anyone seeking the truth. We last spoke a couple days before her suicide, and she was excited about starting classes at the Art Institute in Audio Production, but still very much depressed and in a volatile state of mind. The youngest son of Ethel Mummert and Harve Mummert, Tweed lived all of his life in the Macomb area. And totally based on the Tech as well. With your response here, I really have a hard believing you know anything about suicide at all. But the rest of the post was about trashing it all as he ALWAYS DO. `Anyone who knowingly follows a man like Hubbard deserves exactly what they get. My bad, Alanzo! This kind of cruelty is strewn throughout the anti-Scientology community right now, including fans of Scientology and the Aftermath, because that kind of cruel second-guessing was built right into the episode you watched. So, they have this idea, that if they publically expose the churchs harmful practice, and rub their nose in it, that the church will reform and cease such actions. Thats why I was a squirrel who seldom followed LRH to the letter. The No.1 UK for funeral notices, where you can search over 5,001,904. Until auditors are licensed, I do not think they should have anything to do with the mentally ill. Im pretty sure this tactic of trying to put you in Cathy Tweeds shoes is not getting through to you. 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